From T1:
Rufus Is also lawful good, and when he reaches 8th level he has been instructed to return to Verbobonc for special service in the Viscount‘s behalf.Some Quotes from the DMG:
Page 81
Why then the increase in hit points? Because these reflect both the actual physical ability of the character to withstand damage - as indicated by constitution bonuses- and a commensurate increase in such areas as skill in combat and similar life-or-death situations, the "sixth sense" whith warns the individual of some otherwise unforeseen events, sheer luck,and the fantastic provisions of magical protections and/or divine protection. (Emphasis mine.)Page 25
Whether or not the character actively professes some deity, he or she will have on alignment and serve one or more deities of this general alignment indirectly and unbeknownst to the character.Page 79
By means of skill, luck, magical protections, quirks of fate and the aid of supernatural powers, the character making his or her saving throw takes none or only part of the indicated results - fireball damage, poisoning,being turned to stone, or whatever. (emphasis mine.)There's more relevant material, such as that involving alignment languages, the penalties for changing alignment, etc. Hell, it's "passim" throughout the AD&D rulebooks!
One more quote, from Deities & Demigods, this time. Page 9:
Otherwise, the accumulation of hit points and the ever-greater abilities and better saving throws of characters represent the aid supplied by supernatural forces.So. The supernatural realms and the relationship with deity is very, very important in AD&D. And an integral part of an AD&D campaign world.
Now, back to Rufus.
8th level! One step away from Lord. He's already gotten 3/2 attacks. Rufus is about to become a Superhero!
Rufus Is also lawful good, and when he reaches 8th level he has been instructed to return to Verbobonc for special service in the Viscount‘s behalf.Now, Rufus wouldn't know what 8th level means. Would he? As you might suspect, I'm going to make the case that yes, 8th Level would indeed, mean something to Rufus.
Gygaxian Supernaturalism! (With Thanks to Mr. Maliszewski.)
He might refer to it as becoming a Superhero. I don't think the text states that Rufus is a follower of the Cugel fellow, though Burne is. For the moment, let's assume Rufus is as well. It's likely, the cult of St. Cuthbert would have it's own title for 8th level. Or, maybe Superhero is more widely used.
The point is, that in a world where Leveled Characters are so closely married to the gods and supernatural powers, a Fighter as high as 8th level, especially one as well connected as Rufus, would have an idea of where he stood with his god, church and the Greater Supernatural Realm.
So, what might the Viscount have said to Rufus?
"Return, when you have witnessed the Vision of the Cugel at Noon."
Or, something.
In a world so tightly wielded to the supernatural powers, being a leveled Fighter, serving a deity, perforce, might be somewhat akin to being part of a Mystery Cult. Rufus would know when he had crossed an important threshold and we might assume that 8th level represents just that! An important threshold. Because not only is that the point at which Rufus was ordered to return, but because it was known that he would recognize his entry into 8th level. It could simply be that every level would be considered important. Or, maybe just every one above, say 5th.
At what point does a Fighter start noticing that he's a pawn of the gods?
Hell, he's probably been having dreams, nightmares and visions, sent by St. Cuthbert, and/or Planetars, lesser servants, etc., for quite some time. Not to mention nasty, demonic beings, or deliciously enticing ones, trying to make him swerve from his LG path.
The idea that the gods are giving characters all this aid, which increases at every level, yet have virtually nothing else to do with them, is rather problematic. Gods just aren't the type to be so altruistic and helpful, without ever being more noticeable. Or, demanding. Characters serving under protest, as it were, might be subject to more subtle treatment. Or, not! Those more involved with Churches and Organizations, might also only see signs of the deity, "out of the corner of their eye," as it were. Or, they might find themselves more directly put-upon.
Rufus' deity has been helping him out with Hit Points, Saving Throws, etc., to the point, where Rufus is 8th Level! He lives and moves in a supernatural reality and the gods have a vested interest, however small, in his doings. PC Level ties into this relationship directly! While it's easier to see with Clerics and MU's, as a Fighter gains levels, he's also becoming more tightly enmeshed within the schemes and powers of his deity. Whether he wants to, or not!
It makes perfect sense, that he would be able to see and track the progress of this relationship, at least somewhat. And that he would notice the effect, his relations with the divine, were having upon him. His church, certainly his deity would know!
Established signs, omens, etc., not to mention the possibility of initiatory rituals of a sort, would fit in just perfectly.
Maybe the journey to visit the Viscount is a ruse and the Powers that Be, want to get Rufus out of Hommlet, so they can test his worthiness, to operate at 8th Level.
Oh, apparently Burne and Rufus are lovers. I don't really see St. Cuthbert as the sort to have a Sacred Bander wing of his army. Further research is called for!


Oh, apparently Burne and Rufus are lovers.
ReplyDeleteAnd people say I read too much into things. :) Seriously, there is zero evidence in T1 for this claim and the likelihood Gygax intended such is absolutely nil.
The pink Tabard thing is a little funny. I like wearing pink shirts, though. :)
ReplyDeleteWhat if Rufus is an atheist? :-P
ReplyDeleteThen he's in Denial! :)
ReplyDeleteAnd probably getting tired of Burne constantly trying to save his soul! LoL.
ReplyDeleteThe pink Tabard thing is a little funny.
ReplyDeleteTrue but that's a late edition to the module; the monochrome version of T1 doesn't include it.
In der Nile? Actually he'd be in der Velverdyva wouldn't he?
ReplyDelete(rim shot)
ReplyDeleteMy green T1 is in shoddy shape, so I ordered a monochrome from Noble Knight a few days ago. And, will no doubt use the crappy copy at the table. My collecting habits get a little weird, sometimes.
ReplyDeleteI actually associate that picture more strongly with the Greatest Character Sheets ever made.
ReplyDeleteT1's text indicates that they had 'success' in besting a dragon. I always assumed they had adventured together for a long period of time.
ReplyDeleteNow that particular illustration, though... that makes them look like a Vegas act!
Rufus looks mad, that he found this cool +2 Magic Tabard, but...
ReplyDeleteLooking at the costumes and the fact that both characters are bulging like a sock full of walnuts, I'm guessing the artist was a bit confused about superheroes in D&D. Maybe Rufus got stuck with one of Spiderman's early costume prototypes?
ReplyDeleteRufus is well connected, Lawful Good, and a man of means from successful adventuring...
ReplyDeleteAre there any articles or bits from T1's era about a fighter becoming a Paladin. Austro's point above about atheism begs a good question, as the text doesn't really specifiy that Rufus is a non-believer or what deity he does serve...
Jeff Dee, practicing for V&V. :)
ReplyDeleteI dunno, scottsz. St. Cuthbert makes a lot of sense. Maybe I'll mix it up and make him a follower of Heironeous. :)
Just strange that it doesn't explicitly state Cuthbert...
ReplyDeleteIf he follows another deity, it might explain why he's grumpy - he's surrounded by Cudgel fans and... druids...
It can't be easy to be an atheist in Hommlet.
Lovers. Sure why not? They lived a life of danger and death, why begrudge them finding a little happiness. St. Cuthbert would not mind as long as they destroyed evil and chaos. He is a pragmatic god.
ReplyDelete@Tim - Works for me. :)
ReplyDelete@scottsz - I suspect that Mr. Gygax just forgot to mention it, since he made such a point of telling everyone else's religious persuasion. There may be something else going on, though. Weren't some of the NPC's in T1 drawn from PC's in Gary's campaign? If so, and Rufus was one of them, maybe the player didn't choose a deity. Or, chose one so ill-fitting for the module that GG decided it best to just gloss over the whole thing.
ReplyDeleteIn the picture Burne is saying,
ReplyDelete"Of course Magic-Users can do sit-ups!"
Yeah, he is rather buff! :) Now that you mention it, I assume Rufus is wearing armor, yet he's got that mighty six-pack showing as well. Maybe that's a characteristic of Elven Chain, or something.
ReplyDeletemaybe Rufus knows that 8th level is the next rank in his martial training...like the eighth circle of the sword masters of Verbonc or some thing. If wizards, Thieves, and Clerics all have cults/guilds where they advance to higher tiers of training then why not the bloody fighter?
ReplyDelete@yellowdingo - I think the whole training thing is where I need to go next and then tie everything together. A re-read of the PH and DMG is in order.
ReplyDeleteIt seems to me that the knowledge that Rufus or any other character has gone up a level may be just as much an internal 'Just Knowing' as much as the result of external signs.
ReplyDeletePersonally I think you reach a point where you just know that you're ready. A craftsman grows in confidence and skill with practice, as does a martial artist. You receive training, then you need to get out there and practice what you've been taught until you've mastered it, until it *feels* right, until you are no longer doing, but being. I imagine the same is true of any profession or skill. So advancing a level is the accumulation of all your experiences until you reach the point where you realise that 'yeah, I can do this, I've mastered it, I need to go back to my master and get him to teach me some new tricks'.
Of course, for the right characters the visions and subtle or not so subtle supernatural signs are perfect, but there's always the less reverent ;)
Oh, apparently Burne and Rufus are lovers. I don't really see St. Cuthbert as the sort to have a Sacred Bander wing of his army. Further research is called for!
ReplyDeleteYeah, I read that back when it was posted. I thought it sounded like such a marvellous idea that it became the way it in in my T1. No black people and no gay people in the worlds of fantasy? Nah, I thought so. Burne and Rufus are lovers and I think it's the most fitting thing.
That they have terrible taste in clothing is just hos it is. Everyone knows that those "adventurers" like odd things.
We do need more diversity in RPG Worlds. :)
ReplyDeleteAwesome post, James!
ReplyDeleteHi Al! Thanks!
ReplyDeleteThis is a phenomenal post.
ReplyDeleteHi -C! Thanks! Research continues!
ReplyDeleteThere's a scene in Rome (the TV series) where Mark Anthony advices Julius Caesar tjat he should execute the two main protagonists for some infraction. And Caesar responds that he normally would, but those two have already survived so many dangers against impossible odds that they clearly have the Gods' favor, so he will not touch them, at least not for now. According to your analysis, a ruler in an AD&D world might think the same about a group of high-level characters. A wise one would, anyway.
ReplyDelete@Ronson - Yes! The gods are Real, baby!
ReplyDeleteWoW, I had totally forgotten about this aspect of hit points. Love the name as well, should be a title for a Master's thesis in theology.
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