Showing posts with label Moral Wimps. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Moral Wimps. Show all posts

Friday, June 17, 2011

Let me be a little Clearer about Something

Something Zak said in the comments to the last post:
"Likewise: people on the other side of the debate see publicly encouraging (not "demanding" or "requiring", but still, "advocating for") someone NOT to publish a labor of love the way they want to publish it but instead to change it to fit some perceived ethical or commercial imperative is likewise equally bad-in-itself."

Greg is not just "advocating for" someone NOT to publish.
"People don't want their beloved games on the same shelf with this stuff, they don't like to see it included in the mix. They don't want someone looking at LOTFP Grindhouse Edition as being a part of RPGs, lest the negativity flow back onto other RPGs. Our hobby went through a very long and painful doldrum period where we struggled with negative reputational effects. We are just now getting to the point where it is not a big issue anymore. The last thing people want is for something like this to trigger even more negative associations. I try very hard not to describe RPGs as being "like D&D" because of this negative history. I would truly hate to have to disavow even more material."
"The problem with LOTFP Grindhouse Edition is that it violates the boundaries set by the community. It goes over the line that people are willing to comfortably tolerate, it is beyond the acceptable standard of behavior, and people have reacted to that in a variety of ways."

He's claiming that I agree with him. He's claiming that you agree with him. He's pretending he has a level of support, which he doesn't, in an attempt to create a perception in the mind of his reader's, that his view of what is acceptable and normal is shared by the majority.

He thinks that will work. After all, what the Majority thinks, is very important to Greg, so why shouldn't it work? It's typical mammalian politics and if I'm guilty of bad taste, in pointing this out and calling Greg to the Carpet for it, then I'm ok with that.

Edit: A Snippet of a comment to this post, made by ADD Grognard - 
"I could tell a very long bad story about how this ended the first time in the 80's. When RPGs were NOT a niche market but the fastest growing entertainment segment of the time. Of the religion freaks who threatened my customers until they wouldn't come back and shop.
To the customers I lost when TSR caved in to these peoples' demands. Customers who left for good. It took me 20 years to come back.
I will be damned and go to hell before I let that happen again without saying something this time."
That's why this is important.

Thursday, June 16, 2011

In which, I am Offended

This is so damn stupid! More discussion about the Grindhouse Edition.
Greg's Comment:

"Furthermore,
1. In the past, there has been a lot of negative attention on RPGs because of perceived "immoral" aspects.
2. This kind of behavior risks that kind of thing coming back down on the hobby
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Therefore, I don't think it is a good idea to create such material."
I find that offensive. My reply on the same comment thread:
This is why my grandfather fought in WW II. So you can wimp out and declare that fear should censor our artistic vision.

An obvious reply, but fucking true.
Greg's obtuse answer:

@ James
Is that a new variant of Godwin's Law? Acts have to be judged as worthy in light of the WWII victory?
Greg, you ignorant slut! This isn't a case of Godwin's Law. I'm not comparing you to Hitler. I'm comparing you to Chamberlain.

TSR was wrong to make concessions to the Satanic Panic of the 80's. Your wanting to appease moralists and declaring:
 "Therefore, I don't think it is a good idea to create such material."
Is offensive.

I find your lack of self-respect, offensive.